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Help to choose airbrush

Postby Demenzia » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:08 pm

Finally I will buy an airbrush and I have no idea which one buy.
In the beggining I will use it mainly for terrain, basecoat models and paint vehicles.
I will use it in the garage so I don't need a special compressor (quiet and small).

Any advice about this please?
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Stu's Idle » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:29 pm

As a beginner and for the use you're talking about I really don't think you can go far wrong with this kit:
http://www.rdgtools.co.uk/acatalog/AIRB ... 69080.html
It's a reasonable little kit to get started on and learn how to paint and maintain the brush. I got the slightly simpler version of this kit (without the tank) but recommend that you get the tank. I still use all of that kit but have added a few more expensive airbrushes.

I'd also highly recommend these additions:
http://www.rdgtools.co.uk/acatalog/AIRB ... 98535.html
Very useful as you'll want to disconnect the airbrush to clean it. Once you have more than one airbrush this becomes essential.
http://www.rdgtools.co.uk/acatalog/MINI ... 83342.html
Helps prevent condensation getting into the brush while you're using it, particularly for long jobs.
http://www.rdgtools.co.uk/acatalog/AIRB ... -1684.html
Useful for obvious reasons.
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This is very useful. I'd even suggest getting 2 so you can easily move from one project to another. If spraying plastic models you may need bluetac or even hot glue to stop them blowing away. Be careful with hot glue, don't use too much as I did recently, it can be very hard to unstick the model (I've been told about a way of preventing this which I'll tell you about next time I see you.)

You will also need paint (obviously), cleaner, paint thinner (even if you use pre-mixed airbrush paints) and I'd suggest flow-aid.

I'd be happy to show you my set-up before you buy any of the above. You're also welcome to try it out to see if it's for you.
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Demenzia » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:56 pm

Thank you very much Stu. I really appreciate your help!!!
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Graeme_the_Bald » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:23 am

A lot also depends on your budget. For wargaming minis, the cheaper end of the market is probably enough. I use a dual-action Neo by Iwata, which is the beginner level Iwata brush.
Dual-action is essential cos it means you're controlling both the airflow and the quantity of paint delivered.
I would def recommend a small compressor over cans, esp if airbrushing for longer periods or terrain pieces. The air pressure from cans drops rapidly and they get super cold, then have to warm up for a few hours before being usable again. It takes 5 or 6, and constant can swapping to get anything done!
I don't use turntables, I use blu-tac and old citadel paint pots. This works well for 15mm tanks etc, and saves needing to handle the mini throughout the painting process.
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Wiggles » Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:23 pm

I was going to ask a very similar question.

My use profile is going to be exclusively 15mm tanks. I want to do the faded edging on West German camo. I'm tried it by hand for WWII, but I didn't really like the outcome.

I'm willing to pay for quality so I don't have to buy twice, but I don't want to go overboard. I hear that the cheaper end of the market is pretty dire.

Stu, are any of your recommendations still good?
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Stu's Idle » Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:44 pm

All still valid, including the offer of a demo if you'd like.
Flames Of War: Soviets
Team Yankee (6mm and 15mm): Soviets
Bolt Action: Soviets
DUST: SSU aka Soviets (anyone spotted the theme yet?)
Star Wars Armada: Imperials (Space Soviets, a long, long time ago)
Epic Armageddon: Imperials (Space Soviets, in the grim, far future)
Frostgrave: Dwarves (Short Soviets)
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Wiggles » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:08 pm

Ooh, ta, I might take you up on that.
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Wiggles » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:16 pm

All right, just made my purchase, hopefully be up and running next weekend.

Suppose I want to buy a single air paint to practice and get familiar with the required consistency, does Vallejo's model Air range exactly match their normal range?
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Stu's Idle » Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:53 pm

It seems pretty close to me but I only have experience with a few colours so can't speak for the entire range.
Flames Of War: Soviets
Team Yankee (6mm and 15mm): Soviets
Bolt Action: Soviets
DUST: SSU aka Soviets (anyone spotted the theme yet?)
Star Wars Armada: Imperials (Space Soviets, a long, long time ago)
Epic Armageddon: Imperials (Space Soviets, in the grim, far future)
Frostgrave: Dwarves (Short Soviets)
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Azzabat » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:51 pm

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This is the chart I use: https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Pain ... lity_Chart

It can be a little annoying in that you can't freeze the top row so have to keep scrolling back up to find your column, but other than that I find this very useful.
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Wiggles » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:59 pm

Yeah that chart is really useful (and at the top of every search result for paint equivalents) but it doesn't contain Air Color.

Eye-balling my newly arrived paints, they don't seem to be a match at all, as in, not even supposed to match levels of not matching. There doesn't appear to be a matching chart and the forums are full of people bitching :(

Oh well, I'll have to make a stab in the dark with what I've got.

EDIT: Nevermind. Found a chart, there's no equivalent.
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Wiggles » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:55 am

Just unpacked the airbrush and played around with it without paint.

It came with 2 airbrushes, one of which was gravity fed and one of which was bottle fed (suction? vacuum?). Unfortunately the former - presumably the more reliable feed - brush seems to have a very sticky trigger and it's hard to modulate air without going full blast first.

I've hotfixed a solution by using the valve on the quick release socket to throttle air down to a manageable flow. Is this good practice or is there something I'm missing?

(Also the quick release valve seems to a female adapter which isn't compatible with the supplied male adapter :( )
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Re: Help to choose airbrush

Postby Stu's Idle » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:45 pm

That all sounds wrong to me. If you want to bring it in some time I'd be happy to take a look. Otherwise you may want to contact your supplier about this.
Flames Of War: Soviets
Team Yankee (6mm and 15mm): Soviets
Bolt Action: Soviets
DUST: SSU aka Soviets (anyone spotted the theme yet?)
Star Wars Armada: Imperials (Space Soviets, a long, long time ago)
Epic Armageddon: Imperials (Space Soviets, in the grim, far future)
Frostgrave: Dwarves (Short Soviets)

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